tisdag, juli 22, 2008

Radovan Karadžić

Radovan Karadžić is finally arrested. Now Ratko Mladic is the next target when it comes to the war criminals from former Yugoslavia.

Former negotiator Richard Holbroke said in an interview at CNN that Karadžić was an even bigger war criminal than Mladic or Slobodan Milosevic. He can be described as the 'intellectual' part in the trio. The 'thinker', organizer and the brain behind all the atrocities in former Yugoslavia.

Will he be brought to justice in the Hague or do the present government in Serbia want to put him to trial at home so to speak.
Now we are waiting for all the other war criminals in the world to be put to trial. Unfortunately this will never happen as they are to many and depending on how we look at what a war criminal is, some of them we find among the so called democratic leaders. This complicates the issue.

However Robert Mugabe is one of those leaders who ought to be put to trial as today being one of the world leaders who are closest to dictators as Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin and the like.
He is at least using the same methods towards the population in Zimbabwe.

(Photo Radovan Karadžić copied from: http://combat18.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/karadzic11201.jpg)
(Photo Ratko Mladic copied from: http://24heuresactu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Ratko-Mladic.jpg)

3 commentaires:

lpcyusa sa...

Irrefutable Proof ICTY Is Corrupt Court/Irrefutable Proof the Hague Court Cannot Legitimately Prosecute Karadzic Case


This legal technicality indicates the Hague must dismiss charges against Dr Karadzic and others awaiting trials in the Hague jail; like it or not.

Unfortunately for the Signatures Of the Rome Statute United Nations member states instituting the ICC & ICTY housed at the Hague, insofar as the, Radovan Karadzic, as with the other Hague cases awaiting trial there, I personally witnessed these United Nations member states openly speaking about trading judicial appointments and verdicts for financial funding when I attended the 2001 ICC Preparatory Meetings at the UN in Manhattan making the iCTY and ICC morally incapable trying Radovan Karazdic and others.

I witnessed with my own eyes and ears when attending the 2001 Preparatory Meetings to establish an newly emergent International Criminal Court, the exact caliber of criminal corruption running so very deeply at the Hague, that it was a perfectly viable topic of legitimate conversation in those meetings I attended to debate trading verdicts AND judicial appointments, for monetary funding.

Jilly wrote:*The rep from Spain became distraught and when her country’s proposal was not taken to well by the chair of the meeting , then Spain argued in a particularly loud and noticably strongly vocal manner, “Spain (my country) strongly believes if we contribute most financial support to the Hague’s highest court, that ought to give us and other countries feeding it financially MORE direct power over its decisions.”

((((((((((((((((((((((((( ((((((((((((((((((((((((( Instead of censoring the country representative from Spain for even bringing up this unjust, illegal and unfair judicial idea of bribery for international judicial verdicts and judicial appointments, all country representatives present in the meeting that day all treated the Spain proposition as a ”totally legitimate topic” discussed and debated it between each other for some time. I was quite shocked!
The idea was "let's discuss it." "It's a great topic to discuss."

Some countries agreed with Spain’s propositions while others did not. The point here is, bribery for judicial verdicts and judicial appointments was treated as a totally legitimate topic instead of an illegitimate toic which it is in the meeting that I attended in 2001 that day to establish the ground work for a newly emergent international criminal court.))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

In particular., since "Spain" was so overtly unafraid in bringing up this topic of trading financial funding the ICC for influence over its future judicial appointments and verdicts in front of every other UN member state present that day at the UN, "Spain" must have already known by previous experience the topic of bribery was "socially acceptable" for conversation that day. They must have previously spoke about bribing the ICTY and
ICC before in meetings; this is my take an international sociological honor student. SPAIN's diplomatic gesture of international justice insofar as, Serbia, in all of this is, disgusting morally!

SPAIN HAS TAUGHT THE WORLD THE TRUE DEFINITION OF AN
"INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT."

I represented the state interests' of the Former Yugoslavia, in Darko Trifunovic’s absence in those meetings and I am proud to undertake this effort on Serbia’s behalf.

Bjursell sa...

I can't question your arguments as this is your own experience of the Hague Court and specifically the behaviour of Spain.

When I'm writing about this, I don't state that the governments of other countries, their representatives at the Hague or elsewhere, are morally in a position to say that "we are good and they are bad".

What I am saying is that there is no doubt in my mind about the guilt of Karadzic and Mladic.
This means that as they were the persons in command, politically and military, their responsibility for the actions undertaken buy that government and its military forces, lies with them.

Others did also participate in decisionmaking and execution of orders but Karadzic and Mladic, having the highest positions in the political-military system must be regarded as those having the ultimate responsibility and should therefore also be put to trial.

When saying this, I'm not neglecting the fact that a great deal of persons on all sides of this conflict - directly or indirectly involved - did participate in the atrocities commited in this war.

They should all - as many as possible - be put to trial.

I don't know if you argue for a total release of Karadzic, implying that he had nothing to do with the conflict or if it's only the fact that you think that the Hague Court lacks legitamacy?

If the latter you might well be right but this should lead us to augment the efforts to improve the work at Hague and putting Karadzic to trial after doing so, not releasing him as one so often in history has done with political leaders and military personnel.

We have to keep in mind the incredible suffering these two men - and others - have caused the civilian population.

lpcyusa sa...

sites.google.com/site/jillstarrsite/i-don-t-think-these-newly-released-state-dept-papers-come-anywhere-close-to-answering-dr-karadzic-s-legal-concerns-insofar-as-whether


ANSWER TO RICHARD HOLBROOK FROM JILL STARR